tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25271000.post5624454309913207963..comments2008-09-05T11:40:36.211+10:00hexyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12189529529520498603noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25271000.post-4787216555738489932008-09-05T11:40:36.211+10:002008-09-05T11:40:36.211+10:00I particularly love how she waxes all righteous about Ze Pr0n but her documentary airing on Sex TV, which --guess what! has Ze Pr0n as an integral part of it--is okey dokey because the woman who approached her about it is rilly nice and a feminist TOO! and oh yeah, Heart is SPECIAL. <BR/><BR/>also love the way how most of the time, she's rabbiting on about the terrible things that are happening far from her home, and they ARE terrible, but you know, it's often very "how can you defend such frivolous things as [your issue] when girlchildren are being eaten in Antarctica," that sort of thing; and now it comes to something concrete that one can DO to alleviate the problems those "far away" women (who of course for some people, guess what! turns out it's not actually that far away as it is for Heart after all!) and suddenly she doesn't give a shit until we all, including people like Jill who really DGAS about porn because it has nothing to do with where she's coming from, talk about the bad example Nina Hartley is setting? please.belledame222http://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25271000.post-32496412287796747762008-09-04T06:25:05.270+10:002008-09-04T06:25:05.270+10:00**twitch**<BR/>I refuse to have anything to do with heart. She has never approved a comment of mine (I tried for like 2 weeks solid). It seems that her take on sex-work is the same as her take on trans*, "You are evil and bad for women no matter what, so go away before I taunt you again."<BR/><BR/>You know, from a place where she can make infuriating statements and not have to deal with people calling her on it (because she can edit their posts and/or just not let them out of mod).polerinhttp://eclexia.livejournal.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25271000.post-55539919307652917272008-09-03T17:07:13.439+10:002008-09-03T17:07:13.439+10:00This, "Don’t comment here again until you e-mail me and tell me<BR/>precisely who you are in ways I can substantiate independently", is<BR/>pretty fucking scary. She wants to be able to know who you really are<BR/>to "prove" you aren't a man. How the hell are you even supposed to do<BR/>that?<BR/><BR/>and *hugs all*Drakynhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16855809254404489412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25271000.post-63846782844598299742008-09-03T14:59:42.053+10:002008-09-03T14:59:42.053+10:00Thanks Hexy I'm bowled over myself. Who makes that kind of an accusation?<BR/><BR/>Thanks Drakyn. I don't know where she got that lie from. There is no justification or anything. There are photos of me on my blog - admittedly towards the beginning but still!SDhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09715935368260290306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25271000.post-60310653250940176482008-09-03T14:36:34.564+10:002008-09-03T14:36:34.564+10:00I'm also really sorry she's writing lies about you too Saorla. <BR/>Great post Hexy!<BR/><BR/>It would be interesting to compare, side by side, what Heart has edited and let through (and replied to without letting through) and what people actually posted/said.Drakynhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16855809254404489412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25271000.post-33363364623131721662008-09-03T14:31:39.522+10:002008-09-03T14:31:39.522+10:00Christ, Saorla, I'm so sorry you've had to deal with such a vile accusation.<BR/><BR/>That's just... god, I'm actually speechless. What a despicable thing of her to say.hexyhexhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12189529529520498603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25271000.post-51370417412521949812008-09-03T14:29:35.301+10:002008-09-03T14:29:35.301+10:00What I should have said in my first comment - great post Hexy!<BR/><BR/>Well now I'm a <A HREF="http://saorla.blogspot.com/2008/09/if-you-are-not-with-us.html" REL="nofollow">sexpat man</A> according to Heart. I feel really sick that she has interpreted me like that, especially with the work I doSDhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09715935368260290306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25271000.post-15486535191160274772008-09-03T12:53:08.275+10:002008-09-03T12:53:08.275+10:00mmf. well, I already wrote about it, and you know what, the post stands. she's sorry for what, looking bad? tough. people don't say shit like that unless they mean it at some level.belledame222http://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25271000.post-65111926675024689052008-09-03T12:39:48.687+10:002008-09-03T12:39:48.687+10:00BD: That one's been retconned, it seems. She's apologised for it. Not, y'know, to me or Jill or any of the people she was talking to, but hey.hexyhexhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12189529529520498603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25271000.post-64979253542610027582008-09-03T12:34:14.981+10:002008-09-03T12:34:14.981+10:00<I> I don’t care how many condoms get handed out in the Third World somewhere </I><BR/><BR/>OH FUCKING NO SHE DIDN'T<BR/><BR/>and, well, the whole thing, but THAT was just omfg shut UP you hateful fucking right wing -idiot-belledame222http://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25271000.post-83888084427415133132008-09-03T09:23:08.479+10:002008-09-03T09:23:08.479+10:00Such a great, great post!Daisyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16354486841414802245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25271000.post-9878790960064193702008-09-03T04:25:01.110+10:002008-09-03T04:25:01.110+10:00Absolutely brilliant post.Plain(s)feministhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15056404699624958898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25271000.post-44255205212068462422008-09-03T03:11:10.042+10:002008-09-03T03:11:10.042+10:00hexy- it is rather mind blowing, isn't it? The spin, the dismissal, the..well...the whole thing.Renegade Evolutionhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17905949172886730262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25271000.post-3047477876838045362008-09-02T22:55:28.222+10:002008-09-02T22:55:28.222+10:00Yes. this was awesome.<BR/><BR/>I don't have anything more to say than what you said already. But yes, awesome.Sarah jhttp://www.ohyouprettythings.net/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25271000.post-86876472352502164242008-09-02T22:11:48.978+10:002008-09-02T22:11:48.978+10:00Ren: Thanks. I'm honestly surprised it was coherent.hexyhexhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12189529529520498603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25271000.post-60709611202651592002008-09-02T22:05:06.045+10:002008-09-02T22:05:06.045+10:00SD: Thank you for your comment!<BR/><BR/>I haven't had much to do with the Cambodian sex worker's rights movement, but I have had some exposure to the work of <A HREF="http://empowerfoundation.org/" REL="nofollow">Empower in Thailand</A> and <A HREF="http://www.ziteng.org.hk/" REL="nofollow"> Zi Teng in Hong Kong</A>, and have been eagerly following the development of Friends Frangipani in Papua New Guinea via an email list I'm on with some women who are involved in that effort. The sex worker's rights movement in developing nations is awe-inspiring and immense, and when I read declarations like the claim that the women identifying as "sex workers" are the minority... well, it's clear the author hasn't seen the pictures I've seen of <I>thousands</I> of women marching behind Sex Work Is Work banners in China, India, Thailand.<BR/><BR/>Condom distribution and access is such a vital issue for sex worker's rights activists, feminists, women and people. The role of the US government in limiting that access isn't talked about enough. <BR/><BR/>And thanks for the tip re: developing nations vs third world. I shall amend my usage in future.hexyhexhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12189529529520498603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25271000.post-40354721700667237362008-09-02T20:57:23.169+10:002008-09-02T20:57:23.169+10:00Hexy- This was brilliant.Renegade Evolutionhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17905949172886730262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25271000.post-41035589670769449472008-09-02T20:54:33.048+10:002008-09-02T20:54:33.048+10:00Hi Hexy,<BR/><BR/>I am disgusted too at the callous dismissal of developing world condom distribution.<BR/><BR/>I wrote the following at Heart's but I doubt it will be approved. Feel free to delete it cos you are dealing with many other issues. Just wanted to mention it because it's too easy to dismiss people in other countries and that sort of dismissal pisses me right off.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><I>I don’t care how many condoms get handed out in the Third World somewhere</I><BR/><BR/>Well I care about condom distribution in the developing world (third world is pejorative now), I live in Cambodia. In Cambodia whether the sex work is through trafficking or voluntary the women call themselves sex workers. They feel that "prostitute" is pejorative. The major of sex workers in Cambodia turn to sex work through poverty, rape or trafficking and they are damned sure they want protection through condoms. People living with HIV are discriminated against and Cambodia has a high rate of HIV transmission.<BR/><BR/>http://saorla.blogspot.com/2008/05/ignorance-is-no-excuse.html<BR/><BR/>It's nice that you have the luxury not to care when you live in a country that withdraws billions of dollars in vital aid when condoms or abortions for sex workers are funded.<BR/><BR/>http://saorla.blogspot.com/2006/10/religious-right-and-development-aid.html<BR/>http://saorla.blogspot.com/2007/07/flicker-of-common-sense.html<BR/><BR/>You have a choice not to care. You could choose not to be callous about that choice. But your government makes sure to put these women in further danger<BR/><BR/>Oh and by the way, there's virtually no porn in Cambodia and definitely no hardcore stuff but sex work is at every level of societySDhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09715935368260290306noreply@blogger.com